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To Race or not to Race, that is the question (Upd. See Comments Pro and Contra)
This week we received a press release from the organizers of the London to Brighton Veteran Car Run (LBVCR). They announce that they have added a "competitive element" to the Run (read the press release here). The object is to drive the odd 60 miles to Brighton within a previously set time frame and prizes are given to those who remain within that time frame. Of course the LBVCR is not a race against time, but still, this new proposition set us thinking... what if people, being people, start driving too fast and accidents happen. That will certainly be a blow to the old car movement. We don't mind a little competition, but we do wonder if the LBVCR is the right place for this kind of action. Certainly the object of the LBVCR is to drive from London to Brighton at a leisurely pace, just as the 1896 run in celebration of the abolishment of the Red Flag Act set out to do.
But it is not only our opinion that counts. Perhaps the "competitive element" may add some extra 'oomph' to the Run. We are curious to hear your views on this matter.
(photo Rutger Booy – for illustration purpose only)
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Samstag Juli 20th, 2013
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Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 15:26
A very bad idea, however well regulated it may be.
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Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 08:16
This is not a good idea indeed. As Peter writes regularity is something else.
Some years ago 2 participants were not allowed to start the year after because they did not drive according the traffic rules.... that was the right response from the organisers . And indeed if something happens, it will be a very bad thing for the old car movement.
4 years ago me and my wife went from ghent to london at the wheel of our De Dion 1903...no assistance, no modern car to follow or bring our suitcase... what a great journey. We did it for ourselves, just for fun and pleasure to see what our cars still are up to. Regularity in adding oil, greasing, maintaining etc not in speed.
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Some years ago 2 participants were not allowed to start the year after because they did not drive according the traffic rules.... that was the right response from the organisers . And indeed if something happens, it will be a very bad thing for the old car movement.
4 years ago me and my wife went from ghent to london at the wheel of our De Dion 1903...no assistance, no modern car to follow or bring our suitcase... what a great journey. We did it for ourselves, just for fun and pleasure to see what our cars still are up to. Regularity in adding oil, greasing, maintaining etc not in speed.
Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 08:13
If the LBVCR becomes competitive, surely that will invalidate the insurance cover of most of the participants ? ? ?
Even if they have not signed up for a 'target time', will they not still be taking part in a competitive event ?
And insurance companies are not noted for tolerance of anyone who doesn't adhere to the terms of the policy.
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Even if they have not signed up for a 'target time', will they not still be taking part in a competitive event ?
And insurance companies are not noted for tolerance of anyone who doesn't adhere to the terms of the policy.
Steven White
21 Juli 2013, 07:32
I was always under the impression that the men in blue didn't take kindly to the prospect of racing on the public highway. Most of the cars weren't designed for such use and it has to be that they were not built for our over hurried times. Will they be installing barriers along the route to protect the spectators?
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Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 05:47
Hi rutger . I can see your concern . In ireland at the Gorden benneth its an average speed over a stage and its a common sight to see several cars pulled in waiting for the correct time to finish at the correct average speed . I can only persume its the same for l t b . I do think they will have to have a different average speed for different cars or year of car as a 1898 daimler cant expect to finish the same A S as a 1904 mercedes . Lol . But im sure the organisers are well capiable of running a safe event.
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Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 01:55
I do think that the London to Brighton Run should be just that- a run.
They are obviously harking back to Genevieve - which I understood was thought to have given the 'run' a poor name.
Any speed event, if needed, should be kept to a special 'sprint' on a controlled circuit.
Tony.
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They are obviously harking back to Genevieve - which I understood was thought to have given the 'run' a poor name.
Any speed event, if needed, should be kept to a special 'sprint' on a controlled circuit.
Tony.
Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 00:49
Not clever. Regularity is just another form of racing. Lose time and you have to make it up, which means going much faster than you intended. It will take just one unpleasant mishap and the media will be all over it to the detriment of the event and our hobby.
A cynical view might be that picking up a couple of regularity awards - easily done if you enter for a class well below your car's capabilities - would add value when it's up for sale...
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A cynical view might be that picking up a couple of regularity awards - easily done if you enter for a class well below your car's capabilities - would add value when it's up for sale...
Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 00:47
Remember the film "Genevieve" and the race back to London ?
"First over Westminster Bridge".
The disclaimer at the beginning of the film states :
"For their patient co-operation the makers of this film express their thanks to the officers and members of the Veteran Car Club of Great Britain. Any resemblance between the deportment of our characters and any club members is emphatically denied — by the Club."
stuart
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"First over Westminster Bridge".
The disclaimer at the beginning of the film states :
"For their patient co-operation the makers of this film express their thanks to the officers and members of the Veteran Car Club of Great Britain. Any resemblance between the deportment of our characters and any club members is emphatically denied — by the Club."
stuart
Unbekannt
21 Juli 2013, 00:06
The London to Brighton has always been a race as praise is given to the first to Brighton which means the one who flogged his old car the hardest. I did it years ago in my tiny 1904 Minervette brought over from Australia. Its 1904 dating and late alphabet position meant I was one of the last to leave Hyde Park and about the lowest powered. I wanted to see cars in daylight, so stopped only for fuel. I got to Brighton with 2 hours to spare but by Crawley, cars raced to Brighton were seen already heading home so I had no chance of seeing them. The boredom of holding cars at Brighton would reduce the thrashing of cars to get there early and let more people see them. What is wrong with driving or taking them home the following day anyway? Traffic snarls would make any regularity test meaningless anyway.
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