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A triple motor mystery of the familly Windischgraetz (update: Austro Daimler, Puch, Gräf & Stift?)
Peter Skofic comes up with a nice set of three unidentified cars: "These are three photos of the cars which long time ago belonged to the familly von Windischgraetz (possibly the aristocratic family Windisch-Graetz?), who lived in a small town named Gonobitz located in north-eastern part of Slovenia (its today's name is Slovenske Konjice). The letter "J" on the number plate of the first car indicates "Krain", i.e. one of the regions of Austro-Hungarian empire which nowadays lies in Slovenia as well. Can anybody of the Prewar car readers identify Car Nr. 1, Car nr. 2 or Car nr.3 or possibly all three cars?"
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Samstag Dezember 12th, 2015
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Robert
14 Dezember 2015, 09:27
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14 Dezember 2015, 09:11
Hello,
Hello, I have no idea what the second and third cars are, however I believe the large touring car in photograph number one, to be a 1909 Austro-Daimler, which had large capacity four-cylinder engine with T head side-valves. It was available with either chain, or shaft drive. In 1910, this model, under the design leadership of the brilliant Ferdinand Porsche, evolved into famous 16/18PS which was victorious in the 1911 Alpine tour.
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Hello, I have no idea what the second and third cars are, however I believe the large touring car in photograph number one, to be a 1909 Austro-Daimler, which had large capacity four-cylinder engine with T head side-valves. It was available with either chain, or shaft drive. In 1910, this model, under the design leadership of the brilliant Ferdinand Porsche, evolved into famous 16/18PS which was victorious in the 1911 Alpine tour.
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13 Dezember 2015, 14:16
Being an Austrian those three photos look to me like very Austrian cars:
The first one (Diamond hseped radiator)seems to be a PUCH from Graz, the second an early Gräf & Stift and the third one (possibly) a later Gräf & Stift fom Vienna.
Regards from Austria!
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The first one (Diamond hseped radiator)seems to be a PUCH from Graz, the second an early Gräf & Stift and the third one (possibly) a later Gräf & Stift fom Vienna.
Regards from Austria!
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13 Dezember 2015, 12:51
From the shape of the radiator and bonnet, I think this could be an Austro-Daimler, or a Maja as some A-Ds were sold as around that time.
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13 Dezember 2015, 08:30
If the pictures are of good quality try to enlarge the hubcaps. Very often they are marked.
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"this one" is a Puch
"or this one" is hard to identify, as the Radiator cannot be seen. But a similar bonnet form was used on certain Austro-Fiat models before WWI.
Remark: would be helpful to number the Pictures
editor: thanks for your suggestion Robert, the story was set up in too little time...