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Poor man's Bentley ?

David Porter reports about his restored car: "I purchased this Sunbeam 20/9 some 12 years ago. The car was on the road and went well. But was tired, the chassis was fractured near the gearbox, it would easily oil up the plugs, and was generally in need of a complete rebuild the majority of which was doen in my workshop. Over a period of 18 months a new aluminium over ash body was constructed, the engine was rebuilt, and the rear axle was overhauled with a 3.54 range rover crown wheel & pinion conversion. The car had previously been fitted with twin SU carbs, and close ratio gears. My Beam has made trouble free trips to Le Mans and Angouleme, cruises at 70 mph pulling 2900 rpm, it is extremely comfortable with its bucket seats,and can comfortably cope with 400mls of motorway cruising per day at 70 mph,the only downside is the petrol consumption which is a consistant 18 mpg, I call it my Poor Mans Bentley! 

(editor: well David, we think you do short to yourselves. You have a highly, desirable, powerfull and refined vintage sports tourer in superior condition. We woudn't be surprised if some Bentley owners deeply envy your position!)            
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Samstag März 3rd, 2012
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11 März 2012, 19:26
yesJB,you are correct,it is my sunbeam,i purchased it in febuary 2000,and immediately set about the re-build.
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10 März 2012, 21:21
Is it by any chance the car (possibly before you acquired it) which was at Montlhery vintage revival in 1999? I ask as that Sunbeam was paddocked next to my Alvis and was a 20.9 with 23.8 running gear. It is just visible behind the Alvis in the 1999 pics on their website.
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09 März 2012, 22:26
You are quite correct JB, it is a 23.8 engine & box,very smooth,and very reliable,in fact i always start it on the handle, and it does not have a starter motor fitted, it will usually start first swing hot or cold obviously fully retarded, the brakes are also 23,8 hydraulics, very effective !
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09 März 2012, 18:10
Its certainly nice David - is that a 23.8 Sunbeam engine? I ask as the 20.9 oil filler is on the nearside etc. Actually if it is I think thats a better engine having 7 mains bearings versus 4 plus other improvements.
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07 März 2012, 22:07
First of all thanks to all of the complimentary comments re- my sunbeam 20.9, the body which was removed was not the original,and was fitted in the 1980s, it was not to my style, i believe the original coachwork was a doctors coupe but this had been removed many years ago, i am currently searching for a pair of period SU carbs,-a very constructive comment,-thank you,the car actually handles very well, and i must confess that it is driven usually in a sporting manner-sympathetically!again many thanks for your comments ,very much appreciated, David Porter
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07 März 2012, 16:06
I do Agree with Mr Mawer. Since the car was 'on the road' when acquired it must have had a body on it. I also have an STD car (a Roesch Talbot)and had the original body returned to 'near new' condition- but without replacing anything actually original (for example, it had already been repainted twice before). Saloon bodies are very expensive to restore when in poor condition, but today there is nearly always someone with a suitable chassis who will want to take on the task, even if you cannot.
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R.Mawer
07 März 2012, 11:36
Well its a nice car-yes,&,moreover,the similar twin-cam 3 litre chassis was bodied in this style.But nothing was said about the original bodywork this particular car once carried.What was its fate? We are often told "Oh,it was beyond economical restoration!" Often this is simply not true,sadly.But maybe this car was acquired as a chassis only?Or some other good reason?
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David Barker
05 März 2012, 09:06
Lovely car and a very excellent restoration. Congratulations. My only criticism is that it is a pity about the very modern HS type S.U. carbs. Can't you find a pair if nice early ones, preferrably bronze?
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05 März 2012, 02:06
What a fabulous restoration of a wonderful car. No need to apologize for its heritage. It's a great car that you can be very proud of.
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04 März 2012, 18:12
The 20.9 is a very good touring chassis. Ran 2 seat plus dickey one for 20 years - utterly reliable but thirsty at 16-18 mpg. Not really a sporting chassis - never liked the cantilever rear springs or the gear lever angle resulting from the unit engine/gearbox but well braked and light steering.As a drivers car I prefer my Alvis SD 12/50 beetleback but I'd love the Sunbeam back for touring.Fond memeories of the Dordogne to Shropshire none stop except ferry in 1989!
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04 März 2012, 10:39
This car is more properly a 'poor mans Sunbeam 3 litre'- which it has clearly been designed to resemble- and very hansom it is. The twin cam 3 litre was a real competitor to the Bentley in 1926. It doubtless originally had a saloon body (Sunbeam made very fine ones)- I hope this has survived
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04 März 2012, 10:27
Being a Sunbeam fan I would call it a wise man`s Bentley (far less common and prettier!)
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04 März 2012, 09:56
That's a real car...by respecting what has been made in those days you have a real pleasure and will be respected by all real enthousiasts even if it is not a Bentley.
If you go to the Antwerp Claasic salon you will see two.... so called Bentley, on recent Rolls chassis and all modern stuff. I would say "Oh poor man" to whom buys this !
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04 März 2012, 04:19
I am guessing it is a 20.9 not a 20/9.
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04 März 2012, 04:14
David,

I agree - 'B's are common (especially those unfortunately 'converted' from saloons!) - yours is a lovely car which many would envy. Well done- a great restoration.

Tony.
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