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An Edwardian Lady Mystery (upd.: c. 1913 Clément Bayard 4M3a or 3b)
A most charming Edwardian runabout with coalscuttle(!) nose. Regarding the earlier coalscuttle write up by Ariejan Bos, some of our readers didn't realise that he wrote he was presenting European coal scuttles only. So he didn't overlook Franklin etc. it's just another area of knowledge. Maybe somebody will stand up to write about the US built coal scuttle noses.
Anyway today's mystery car was once located in New Zealand. Bill Keen writes:
"I am helping with research on Dr Emily Siedeberg, attached is a photo of her in her car outside her home and consulting rooms , in York Place Dunedin NZ. My findings so far have been Renault - Siddeley - Clement Bayard around 1909- 1912, but they dont seem to be quite the same. Hoping you can solve the mystery. "
Editor: well Bill; our feeling is that you came close, very close with Clément Bayard and that the only thing missing in your identification is the right year (1904, 1905, 1906 ?) and the exact type. We'll leave it to the experts. And while waiting for their verdict we dream away imagining to drive these Easter days that sweet little car in Dunedin, New Zealand.
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Donnerstag März 24th, 2016
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25 März 2016, 20:13
Unbekannt
25 März 2016, 06:06
Hi,
I believe the car pictured is a c 1913 Clement-Bayard 4M(3) series - probably 4M3a or 4m3b. This is the small 8hp 4 cylinder (monobloc motor). The exact year is difficult because the photo is a little unclear around the top of the radiator and that tends to be the distinguishing feature. The top front of the radiator was right angular in 1910-11. Somewhere around 1912-13 it was rounded off. This one looks to have the rounded front edge so possibly 1913.
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I believe the car pictured is a c 1913 Clement-Bayard 4M(3) series - probably 4M3a or 4m3b. This is the small 8hp 4 cylinder (monobloc motor). The exact year is difficult because the photo is a little unclear around the top of the radiator and that tends to be the distinguishing feature. The top front of the radiator was right angular in 1910-11. Somewhere around 1912-13 it was rounded off. This one looks to have the rounded front edge so possibly 1913.
Kevin Atkinson
25 März 2016, 02:02
I suspect it is a circa 1913 8HP Clement Bayard.
Stedman and Wilson, the Dunedin agent imported a number of them, which were described as being in a "Puttee" colour. This is presumably a mis-spelling of Putty which would seem to me to be quite possible for the above picture
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Stedman and Wilson, the Dunedin agent imported a number of them, which were described as being in a "Puttee" colour. This is presumably a mis-spelling of Putty which would seem to me to be quite possible for the above picture
The colour of Puttees - khaki if I remember from my cadet days in the 50's
Tony.