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Modern road side assistance? (update: no minor issue)
Henk Nooteboom is experienced rally driver - amongst other palmares also winner of The 100 Miles of Amsterdam 2012. He reports about a recent holiday in France with his 1921 Stutz Open Tourer. Our jaws dropped when we came to the end of the story...
"This is what happens if the blocking ring (which has to keep the axle in place) of the driven rear axle breaks and no longer is doing what it should do: the rearwheel + brakedrum about 30cm next to the car, no propulsion and, worse, hardly any brakes left. Nevertheless I managed to stop with the combined help of hand- en footbrake.
This happened last month, when we were on holiday in the South of France with our 1921 Stutz open tourer. It made that we had to continue our holiday and travel home in a rental car! This was the very first time since we started driving classic or vintage cars in 1975. During all this we were professional assisted bij de Royal Dutch Automobile Club (KNAC)."
editor: Henk, you write "professionally assisted". In what sense? We don't understand why the assisting forces were not capable putting back the wheel in place and make a small repair in order for Henk and family to continue. Or do we make the wrong assumption that the halfshaft was not only dislocated but also broken? It is saddening to read that roadside assistance has dropped to a level that with rleative minor issues the only thing they can do is to haul the car to a garage.
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Sonntag Dezember 7th, 2014
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11 Dezember 2014, 14:17
You are very right Bill. I remember the sharp bends that I took downhill on the pass between two mountainpeaks with screaming tyres and the panic that came over me, no brakes, no gears totally nothing!!! Just lucky to have survived it! And when we rolled into that small mountain village all was well again and we stopped by pure chance in front of that old blacksmith with his three sons who immediately started fighting who was allowed to make that damn new ring. After taking the axle in pieces and later putting things together again we had lunch with the whole family of that blacksmith and with sunset we drove off a little drunk of the wine... All in all I think I aged at least ten years in just one day!
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08 Dezember 2014, 21:50
Yes it does happen to Singers! This was my 2litre on the Autoroute near Nancy in 2001 en route to Italy. In this case the tab washer on the locking ring had snapped off & allowed it to unscrew. My fault - it could not have been done up tight enough when I replaced the bearing. Although I have AA recovery the French police & their recovery team whisked to a local garage in Luneville where the owner allowed me free use of his workshop - to get rid of the mad English I suspect! We continued our holiday with just a few hours delay. I replaced the tab washers with Locktite & no further problems to date. But it emphasises how careful we need to be.
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08 Dezember 2014, 09:42
Dear Joris,
Unfortunately this is not a minor issue, not with this car:
I managed myself on the spot to put the axle back in place and first had the idea to put a hose clamp on the axle, but due tot he fact that 1) this blocking ring is part of the shape of the axle and keep’s the complete halfshaft in place by the outer wheelbearing as Peter described it, 2) we were in mountainous terrain and this car only has mechanical rearwheelbrakes, 3) we both wanted to finish our holiday, together and in good health, I decided not to travel on, but to call the KNAC. They took care of a towing car, a hotel and a rental car in a couple of hours.
Back home I machined some bushes with a collar (for both sides as the blocking ring of the left axle was also badly damaged and bearings with this axlediameter are no longer available). Those bushes were shrunk on the axles, new bearings were set and now it’s running (again) as new.
Regards,
Henk
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Unfortunately this is not a minor issue, not with this car:
I managed myself on the spot to put the axle back in place and first had the idea to put a hose clamp on the axle, but due tot he fact that 1) this blocking ring is part of the shape of the axle and keep’s the complete halfshaft in place by the outer wheelbearing as Peter described it, 2) we were in mountainous terrain and this car only has mechanical rearwheelbrakes, 3) we both wanted to finish our holiday, together and in good health, I decided not to travel on, but to call the KNAC. They took care of a towing car, a hotel and a rental car in a couple of hours.
Back home I machined some bushes with a collar (for both sides as the blocking ring of the left axle was also badly damaged and bearings with this axlediameter are no longer available). Those bushes were shrunk on the axles, new bearings were set and now it’s running (again) as new.
Regards,
Henk
Peter
08 Dezember 2014, 08:20
Hello,
The text refers to a 'Blocking Ring'. Is this actually the 'Locking Ring' that retains the outer half-shaft bearings as well as locating the half-shaft in relation to the differential?
If this 'breaks', then the repair would require considerable machining-shop facilities and most certainly not be something that could be fixed by the road-side. I assume that the outer face of this ring (the part that takes all the side-thrust) fractured and detached from the body that usually screws onto (or into!) the outer end of the axle tube.
IF it was simply that the ring had unscrewed then, perhaps, a road-side repair would have been possible. This would again depend on there being no damage to the screw thread either on the axle end or on the ring itself.
In any case, not a minor issue...!
Regards, Peter Maguire.
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The text refers to a 'Blocking Ring'. Is this actually the 'Locking Ring' that retains the outer half-shaft bearings as well as locating the half-shaft in relation to the differential?
If this 'breaks', then the repair would require considerable machining-shop facilities and most certainly not be something that could be fixed by the road-side. I assume that the outer face of this ring (the part that takes all the side-thrust) fractured and detached from the body that usually screws onto (or into!) the outer end of the axle tube.
IF it was simply that the ring had unscrewed then, perhaps, a road-side repair would have been possible. This would again depend on there being no damage to the screw thread either on the axle end or on the ring itself.
In any case, not a minor issue...!
Regards, Peter Maguire.
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01 Dezember 2014, 08:20
The same thing happened to me driving my Singer Le Mans 9hp through The Alps and the backwheel came off in the same way and me and my co-driver had a few very scary moments but we found a blacksmith in a small village who made a solid new ring with lots of fire and hammering...it´s all 25 years ago but it feels like it happened yesterday!
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